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		<title>Jamaat-i-Islami in Pakistan and the rape/adultery fallacy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found this argument by Munawar Hassan of the political party Jamaat-i-Islami to be unbelievably disgusting and fundamentally blasphemous in the way he invokes the Qur’an to justify blatant misogyny:
Here is the most disturbing part of Hassan’s comments:
Anchor: The fundamental purpose of the women protection act was (is) to provide women with the right to file cases on the basis... <span class="more"><a href="http://blog.bridgestv.com/2011/07/jamaat-i-islami-in-pakistan-and-the-rapeadultery-fallacy/" title="read more &#187;">read more &#187;</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this argument by Munawar Hassan of the political party Jamaat-i-Islami to be unbelievably disgusting and fundamentally blasphemous in the way he invokes the Qur’an to justify blatant misogyny:<br />
Here is the most disturbing part of Hassan’s comments:<span id="more-1239"></span></p>
<p>Anchor: The fundamental purpose of the women protection act was (is) to provide women with the right to file cases on the basis of circumstantial and forensic evidence, making convictions of rape easier. Where is the obscenity in that?</p>
<p>Munawar Hasan: This bill has been part of law for years, how has that affected the rights of women in Pakistan? What is the one issue that can be pointed out as a success of this law?</p>
<p>Anchor: One blaringly obvious problem with the Hudood law was the need to present four witnesses in order to convict a rapist, failure to do so resulted in the arrest of the woman on charges of confession to adultery, that was the main issue.</p>
<p>Munawar Hasan: What is the problem in that?</p>
<p>Anchor: The problem is this sir, that according to the 2003 national commission status of women report 80 per cent women were forced to languish in jails because of inability to produce witnesses of their rape.</p>
<p>Munawar Hasan: The objective of Islam is to discourage such acts, no one can be shameless enough to commit such an act in the presence of four people. Making it impossible to prove such acts, therefore the whole idea is to discourage bringing such acts into public light. Discouraging it to the extent that the act is never quoted. If such a crime occurs and since there are no witnesses than both men and women are suppose to keep it under wraps and not discuss it in public.</p>
<p>Anchor: Sir, are you suggesting that a woman should stay silent after she is raped? That she should not report the crime?</p>
<p>Munawar Hasan: I am saying she should keep quite if she has no witnesses. If she has witnesses than she should present them.</p>
<p>Anchor: What kind of an argument is that? A woman is raped and she has to look for witnesses to prove the crime?</p>
<p>Munawar Hasan: Argue with the Quran and not me.</p>
<p>Anchor: I am not questioning the Quran, I am questioning your argument.</p>
<p>This is unbelievable. Why do extremist Islamists always make the poorest, most ignorant religious arguments?</p>
<p>In the Qur’an, four witnesses are required to prove zina (adultery), not rape. That is a key distinction, and the Qur’an is merciful, in that by requiring 4 witnesses, the standard for proving adultery is set so high as to be impossible. That is as it should be, since the penalty for adultery is so severe (100 lashes – the Qur’an does not prescribe stoning). But adultery is not rape. If you are raped, you did not commit adultery. Adultery is a category of illicit, but mutually consensual, sexual intercourse. Obviously in rape, the sexual intercourse is forced by one party upon the other without their consent – that is the very definition of rape.</p>
<p>In fact, centuries of Islamic jurists have established consensus that rape is not a category of adultery, but rather of hirabah (terrorism). Here is an excellent resource from MuslimAccess on rape in Islam by Uzma Mazhar – from which I am copying liberally:</p>
<p>During the time of the Prophet (saw) punishment was inflicted on the rapist on the solitary evidence of the woman who was raped by him. Wa’il ibn Hujr reports of an incident when a woman was raped. Later, when some people came by, she identified and accused the man of raping her. They seized him and brought him to Allah’s messenger, who said to the woman, “Go away, for Allâh has forgiven you,” but of the man who had raped her, he said, “Stone him to death.” (Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud)<br />
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Islamic legal scholars interpret rape as a crime in the category of Hiraba. In ‘Fiqh-us-Sunnah’, hiraba is described as: ‘a single person or group of people causing public disruption, killing, forcibly taking property or money, attacking or raping women (hatk al ‘arad), killing cattle, or disrupting agriculture.’</p>
<p>The famous jurist, Ibn Hazm, had the widest definition of hiraba, defining a hiraba offender as: ‘One who puts people in fear on the road, whether or not with a weapon, at night or day, in urban areas or in open spaces, in the palace of a caliph or a mosque, with or without accomplices, in the desert or in the village, in a large or small city, with one or more people… making people fear that they’ll be killed, or have money taken, or be raped (hatk al ‘arad)… whether the attackers are one or many.”</p>
<p>Al-Dasuqi held that if a person forced a woman to have sex, his actions would be deemed as committing hiraba. In addition, the Maliki judge Ibn ‘Arabi, relates a story in which a group was attacked and a woman in their party was raped. Responding to the argument that the crime did not constitute hiraba because no money was taken and no weapons used, Ibn ‘Arabi replied indignantly that “hiraba with the private parts” is much worse than hiraba involving the taking of money, and that anyone would rather be subjected to the latter than the former.</p>
<p>The crime of rape is classified not as a subcategory of ‘zina’ (consensual adultery), but rather as a separate crime of violence under hiraba. This classification is logical, as the “taking” is of the victim’s property (the rape victim’s sexual autonomy) by force. In Islam, sexual autonomy and pleasure is a fundamental right for both women and men (Ghazâlî); taking by force someone’s right to control the sexual activity of one’s body is thus a form of hiraba.</p>
<p>Rape as hiraba is a violent crime that uses sexual intercourse as a weapon. The focus in a hiraba prosecution is the accused rapist and his intent and physical actions, and not second-guessing the consent of the rape victim. Hiraba does not require four witnesses to prove the offense, circumstantial evidence, medical data and expert testimony form the evidence used to prosecute such crimes.</p>
<p>To summarize, rape is hirabah (terrorism), not zina (adultery) – punishment should be meted to the rapist, and the victim of rape should not be punished in any way. A statement of being raped is not a confession to adultery. All of this is not some modern reinterpretation on my part, but a robust, centuries-old consensus of all major schools of jurisprudence in Islam.</p>
<p>The transcript of the video above is via Sana Saleem at Dawn.com, who also makes the point that the 2006 debate about the Hudood Laws in Pakistan really laid bare the issue. She writes:</p>
<p>In 2006, a much-heated debate on the Hudood Laws revealed the anatomy of rape, conflicting legalities involving misinterpretations of Shariah Laws and the deeply engrained distorted public perceptions. For those who followed the debate, there should be no qualms in admitting that it made the inherent flaws in interpretations of the law and the systematic distortion of a society sensitive to violence and abuse evident.</p>
<p>Saleem notes that it was the debate in 2006 that led to the Protection of Women Act later that year, which extremists like Jamaat-i-Islami opposed. Clearly, they haven’t evolved or become any more enlightened in the past five years. This all points to the difficulty of legislating morality – what’s needed is not top-down reform but a sustained campaign for civil rights at the grassroots level to change the public perception. This is how civil rights were won in the United States, by the most downtrodden and persecuted group in American society. I wonder if Pakistani women can do the same. Certainly not overnight, and not with a single law.</p>
<p>The full post by Sana Saleem, entitled “Your rape culture is not my religion“, is a must-read in full.</p>
<p><strong>Reprinted from City of Brass, by Aziz Poonawalla on <a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/cityofbrass/">blog.beliefnet.com</a></strong></p>
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		<title>Heaven, Hell and Rob Bell</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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Rob Bell’s new book, Love Wins,  continues to stir controversy and provoke debate in many religious  circles.  Whether Bell is correct or not about who gets into heaven and  who will go to Hell is not something which anyone can know.
Both Bell’s theories and those of the people who dispute him about what a  loving... <span class="more"><a href="http://blog.bridgestv.com/2011/03/heaven-hell-and-rob-bell/" title="read more &#187;">read more &#187;</a></span>]]></description>
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<p>Rob Bell’s new book, <a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/news/2011/03/critics-heated-up-by-bells-hel_comments.php">Love Wins</a>,  continues to stir controversy and provoke debate in many religious  circles.  Whether Bell is correct or not about who gets into heaven and  who will go to Hell is not something which anyone can know.<br />
Both Bell’s theories and those of the people who dispute him about what a  loving God would do are simply mirrors of both his and their  pre-existing definitions about love, God, and the afterlife.  <span id="more-862"></span>More  importantly, those beliefs are great predictors of how people behave in  this life and since that is the one we all share, it’s the one upon  which we ought to focus.<br />
Tell me a person’s beliefs about the afterlife, including the absence of  such belief, and I’ll tell you how they function in this life, for  better or for worse.  Notions of the afterlife reflect our most deeply  held values about this life, which because they are not always realized  here, are deferred to the next life.  Like all ideals, they represent  that to which we aspire, and if we are serious about our aspirations,  those conceptions of the hereafter impact how we live in the here and  now.<br />
Debates about what will “really” occur in the future are best left to  the future.  But the implications of the beliefs that people hold, have  enormous impact not only on their own lives, but on the lives of all the  people around them – especially those who don’t share their beliefs.<br />
Whether there is an afterlife, how important its existence is to any  individual or group, their belief about who gets in, who doesn’t, and  why – all of these shape how they live and how they relate to others,  especially to those who do not share their beliefs.  Ultimately, it is  this last issue which is the most important.<br />
At the end of the day, it is far easier to hurt and even to destroy  another human being whom one already believes is cursed by God.  After  all, the hurt done to them in this life is nothing compared to the  suffering they will endure in the next life and, so the argument goes,  reflects God’s ultimate will and may even cause them to repent of  whatever sins they are supposedly  guilty.<br />
Over the centuries, millions of people have been subjected to everything  from regular degradation to the most horrendous suffering, including  mass murder, all because they were outside of some other group’s  salvation scheme.  That tragic behavior continues to this very day in  more places and ways than we can name.<br />
Unfortunately, even those who are well-intentioned, including Rob Bell,  may be guilty of perpetuating this problem.  While not necessarily as  toxic as consigning people with whom he disagrees to Hell, Bell’s  description of them as “truly humbled, broken, and desperate for  reconciliation” is not much better.  Am I in that category because I am a  non-Christian?  Are atheists in that category because they don’t  believe in the existence of God?<br />
While Bell argues for love, he does so in a way which embraces a belief  in the still real spiritual failings of what I am sure equals billions  of people.  While his approach is a big deal within Christian  theological circles, and is certainly an upgrade on those beliefs which  regard many of us not only as damaged but as eternally cursed, it’s far  from where I think such beliefs need to be.<br />
Personally, it strikes me as arrogant to imagine that when we are done  in this life, there is nothing that comes after.  But it strikes me as  both arrogant t and dangerous to believe that whatever is coming will be  measured by any one set of beliefs that obtain in this word, and  certainly not that people will be measured by the rules of those  communities to which they did not belong when they were here.</p>
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<p><strong>Reprinted from Rabbi Brad Hirschfield&#8217;s blog Windows and Doors:    Where          politics and pop culture meet 3000 years of Jewish Wisdom    on <a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/windowsanddoors/">Beliefnet</a></strong></p>
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		<title>An Agnostic Jew Reads the Qur&#8217;an</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a great, great TED talk by Lesley Hazleton, who in the course of  researching an upcoming biography of the Prophet Mohammed SAW decided  to undertake a reading of the Qur&#8217;an. It is a marvelous (and brief)  talk, only about ten minutes, but she masterfully captures the essence  of the Qur&#8217;an as a spoken text,... <span class="more"><a href="http://blog.bridgestv.com/2011/02/an-agnostic-jew-reads-the-quran/" title="read more &#187;">read more &#187;</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great, great TED talk by Lesley Hazleton, who in the course of  researching an upcoming biography of the Prophet Mohammed SAW decided  to undertake a reading of the Qur&#8217;an. It is a marvelous (and brief)  talk, only about ten minutes, but she masterfully captures the essence  of the Qur&#8217;an as a spoken text,<span id="more-744"></span> a subtle text, and a flexible text.  Also, she makes it clear yet again that there&#8217;s no 72 virgins nonsense  on the Qur&#8217;an at all.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/1045">http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/1045</a></p>
<p>I look forward to reading her biography of the Prophet SAW. And I  think her insights on the Qur&#8217;an align perfecty with Michael Sells&#8217;  brief volume, &#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1883991692/cityofbrass-20">Approaching the Qur&#8217;an</a>&#8220;,  which does not pretend to be a translation. I have a review copy and  really need to talk more about that book. Highly, highly recommended, as  I am sure Hazleton&#8217;s book will be.</p>
<p>Incidentally if she had asked me, I would have saved her a lot of  trouble by pointing her to Quran.com where she could have read all three  translations and the Arabic simultaneously instead of doing it the hard  way (that slide of her desk was cringe-inducing).</p>
<p><strong>Reprinted from City of Brass, by Aziz Poonawalla on <a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/cityofbrass/">blog.beliefnet.com</a></strong></p>
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		<title>A New Détente Between The U.S. and Muslim World?</title>
		<link>http://blog.bridgestv.com/2011/02/a-new-detente-between-the-u-s-and-muslim-world/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The past 30 days may go down in history as among the most significant  30 days in modern history.  The events occurring all over North Africa  and the Middle East are pretty amazing, to be sure.  On the other hand,  all kinds of events which were seen as potential game-changers ended up  changing very... <span class="more"><a href="http://blog.bridgestv.com/2011/02/a-new-detente-between-the-u-s-and-muslim-world/" title="read more &#187;">read more &#187;</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The past 30 days may go down in history as among the most significant  30 days in modern history.  The events occurring all over North Africa  and the Middle East are pretty amazing, to be sure.  On the other hand,  all kinds of events which were seen as potential game-changers ended up  changing very little.  So perhaps the issue is less the past 30 days and  more the next 30 weeks.<span id="more-731"></span></p>
<p>Despite all the over-blown claims about the &#8220;clearly&#8221; positive  meaning of Egypt&#8217;s so-called January 25th Revolution by some, and the  outright fear-mongering about the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood by  others, the only thing that&#8217;s clear, is that the situation in Egypt and  throughout the Middle East&#8217;s Muslims nations, is anything but clear.  Whether or not the unfolding situation will bring positive change vis a  vis the United States&#8217; relations with those countries depends on the  level of openness which the parties can maintain.</p>
<p>Egypt, Tunisia and any other countries which join them in  overthrowing non-democratic regimes will have to channel their passion  for change, not only into democratic government, but into democracies  which value openness and some form of rights-driven government which  puts individual citizens ahead of any particular religious system.  Neither Egypt, Tunisia, nor any other Muslim country is the US, nor  should they be.<br />
They will however have to embrace unprecedented, for them at least,  levels of cultural and legal openness if they hope to see a new era in  relations with the United States.</p>
<p>United States policy-makers will have to figure out what it means to  see hope where they have often trained themselves to see only  hopelessness. They need to get past overly simplistic dichotomies which  force us to choose between individual dictators and the dictatorship of a  particular faith. We need to embrace the notion that there are many  ways to create the kind of political and legal cultures which we  treasure, including the possibility of doing so within an Islamic  context. To be sure, no nation in the Muslim world has really done that,  but places like Turkey are trying and we dare not declare impossible  that which is simply unprecedented.</p>
<p>The future of US relations with Muslim countries depends on the  willingness of both sides to open their collective minds to new  possibilities and the discipline to realize that despite having taken  some very interesting steps in the past weeks, the journey is far from  over. In a world of over-eager apologists and small-minded cynics, we  need clear-eyed optimists &#8211; people who know that naiveté can be deadly,  but that without hope, we are already dead.</p>
<p><strong>Reprinted from Rabbi Brad Hirschfield&#8217;s blog Windows and Doors:   Where          politics and pop culture meet 3000 years of Jewish Wisdom   on <a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/windowsanddoors/">Beliefnet</a></strong></p>
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		<title>What&#8217;s Your Calling?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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Ever  wonder why people choose to become rabbis, priests, ministers or imams?   Ever consider what it means to think of your own work as more than a  job, but as a calling?  Although it&#8217;s often assumed to be a real  question for clergy, The Calling,  a wonderful documentary  on PBS  uses the stories... <span class="more"><a href="http://blog.bridgestv.com/2010/12/whats-your-calling/" title="read more &#187;">read more &#187;</a></span>]]></description>
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<p>Ever  wonder why people choose to become rabbis, priests, ministers or imams?   Ever consider what it means to think of your own work as more than a  job, but as a calling?  Although it&#8217;s often assumed to be a real  question for clergy, <a href="http://www.whatsyourcalling.org/">The Calling</a>,  a wonderful documentary  on PBS  uses the stories of clergy to  open that question for all of us.<span id="more-410"></span></p>
<p>The Calling will air in two parts, tonight and tomorrow night, and  whether you are interested in the fascinating personal journeys of a  bunch of emerging spiritual leaders, how &#8220;regular&#8221; people conduct their  own spiritual journeys, or how any of us can find greater meaning in the  work that we do, you will want to see this film.  In a world which  often disconnects us from the reason that we chose our professions, or  one in which economic necessity takes the choice away from us, we still  have the power to treat our work as a calling, and when we do, great  things happen.</p>
<p>Watching The Calling, and taking a few moments to check out the  interactive Calling website, could help transform the mundane into the  meaningful, and the everyday into the sacred.  It&#8217;s hard not to be  inspired by the people chosen by documentarian Daniel Alpert, even  harder to miss how powerfully and sensitively he tells their stories.   But what I like best about The Calling, is the way it invited each of us  to think about what calls to us.</p>
<p>So I ask you, what&#8217;s your calling?  Whatever you do, whether  experience your work as an expression of your calling or not, each of us  is called in this life to many different things.  How about you?  Feel  free to answer here and/or to add your answer at <a href="http://www.whatsyourcalling.org/">whatsyourcalling.org</a>.</p>
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<p><strong>Reprinted from Rabbi Brad Hirschfield&#8217;s blog Windows and Doors:  Where          politics and pop culture meet 3000 years of Jewish Wisdom  on <a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/windowsanddoors/">Beliefnet</a></strong></p>
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		<title>Faith Groups Split on Resolving N.Y. Islamic Center Controversy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 18:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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The Gallup organization  has released polling data on how the members of various faith  communities would resolve tensions around the construction of an Islamic  center planned for a site three blocks from the site of the 9/11  attacks in New York city.  Among the most interesting things about these  statistics is that there is... <span class="more"><a href="http://blog.bridgestv.com/2010/11/faith-groups-split-on-resolving-n-y-islamic-center-controversy/" title="read more &#187;">read more &#187;</a></span>]]></description>
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<p>The <a href="http://www.gallup.com/poll/144314/Faith-Groups-Split-Best-Resolution-Islamic-Center-Debate.aspx">Gallup </a>organization  has released polling data on how the members of various faith  communities would resolve tensions around the construction of an Islamic  center planned for a site three blocks from the site of the 9/11  attacks in New York city.  Among the most interesting things about these  statistics is that there is no majority of opinion in any group about  what constitutes the best possible response. <span id="more-398"></span></p>
<p>Among Muslims respondents, 14% favor relocating the project to an  alternate site, 43% favor construction in the currently proposed  location and 30% favor building an interfaith institution in the current  location.  Among Jews, the numbers are 43%, 25% and 28%, respectively.   Among Catholics, the group most opposed to construction on the  currently proposed site (followed closely by Mormons), its 63%, 15% and  15%.  Protestant respondents broke down 49%, 18% and 23%.  For atheists,  it was 32% 42% and 17%.  In other words, as communities, there remain  real questions about how best to proceed.</p>
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<p>The lack of agreement in no way suggests that the center  should not be built by those who support it.  If it meets the measure of  the law, it should be built.  This is America, right?  But, in light of  the wide range of opinion surrounding this project,  the way in which  it should be built, the conversations which need to be part of that  process, the questions which ought to be raised and the sensitivities  which deserve to be addressed, are more important than ever.</p>
<p>The Gallup numbers suggest that there is greater diversity of opinion  than is often presumed, and clearly demonstrate that no one view, even  with any given faith community, holds sway.  Tempting as it may be to  suggest otherwise, these numbers tell us that simply dividing people  along the lines of Islamophobes who are opposed to the project and  lovers of religious freedom who support it, is not right.  Nor should be  insisting, as both sides in this debate often do, that to be a good  Christian, Muslim, Jew, atheist, etc. dictates what one believes is the  appropriate decision in this case.  These numbers suggest that something  far more interesting is going on.</p>
<p>Gallup&#8217;s data suggests that instead of the center&#8217;s supporters and  detractors simply wrapping themselves in competing claims about what  their community wants, or what their tradition teaches is &#8220;the&#8221; right  response to this controversy and making sanctimonious claims about what  is right and good, each side needs to address the fact that lots of  people have lots of questions and uncertainties about how to proceed.</p>
<p>Accomplishing this is not simply a matter of information &#8211; we have  plenty, if not too much of that, already.  In fact, the poll also  indicated that with exception of Mormons, between 55 and 70 percent of  the members of different faith groups have read or heard &#8220;a great deal&#8221;  about this issue already.  The issue is not more facts and data, the  issue is having enough wisdom to process it in ways that help us resolve  the conflict.</p>
<p>While it may be hard for pollsters, we can accomplish this by asking  one question of all people, a question which takes us beyond what they  believe about the proposed center and asks them why they believe what  they believe.  Why do respondents say that they are opposed?  Why are  they in favor?  Do they understand that people who share their faith  commitments have reached very different conclusions?  Why do they think  that is?  These are the questions which will bring this ongoing  controversy to healthier and more productive conclusion.</p>
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<p><strong>Reprinted from Rabbi Brad Hirschfield&#8217;s blog Windows and Doors: Where          politics and pop culture meet 3000 years of Jewish Wisdom on <a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/windowsanddoors/">Beliefnet</a></strong></p>
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		<title>Who Knows God and Who Knows About God</title>
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The Pew poll of religious knowledge,  in which atheists/agnostics scored ever-so-slightly higher than Jews  and Mormons demonstrates at least four significant facts about what we  know and why we know it.  Appreciating these facts would go a long way  toward ending the ugly fighting between theists and atheists.  Of course  they would need... <span class="more"><a href="http://blog.bridgestv.com/2010/10/who-knows-god-and-who-knows-about-god/" title="read more &#187;">read more &#187;</a></span>]]></description>
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<p>The <a href="http://pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx">Pew poll of religious knowledge</a>,  in which atheists/agnostics scored ever-so-slightly higher than Jews  and Mormons demonstrates at least four significant facts about what we  know and why we know it.  Appreciating these facts would go a long way  toward ending the ugly fighting between theists and atheists.  Of course  they would need to want to stop their mutual mistreatment and  disrespect for that to happen, but that is a different matter  altogether.<span id="more-367"></span></p>
<p>First, Knowing God is different than Knowing about God and knowing  about religion should not be confused with following a particular faith.   That atheists and agnostics (why they are lumped together is a  question for another time) scored highest is actually not that  surprising.  In fact, one might assume that knowing about religion plays  a similar role in the lives of atheists/agnostics as does having  religious experience does in the lives of believers &#8211; each is a source  of personal identity.</p>
<p>Second, Knowing and believing are fundamentally different from each  other.  It&#8217;s not that one is inherently superior to the other, and each  has its own rewards.  We don&#8217;t confuse understanding the history and  mechanics of human sexuality with the power and beauty of making love,  so why do we fail to make that distinction when it comes to religion?</p>
<p>Probably because atheism is as much a personal identity issue for  non-believers as is religion for believers.  In each case arrogance  about the position which works best in one&#8217;s own life leads, as it often  does in such matters, to ignoring the insights which are only available  through the perspective of the position one does not adopt.</p>
<p>Third, there is almost always a tension between depth and breadth of  knowledge.  Not surprisingly, the more deeply committed one is to a  particular faith tradition, the less likely they are to know a great  deal about other traditions.</p>
<p>This fact should serve as a warning to any group which focuses  exclusively on the value of deepening one&#8217;s knowledge of their own  tradition.  Too often it creates followers of the faith who are  dangerously ignorant of the wider world in which they live.  I challenge  anyone to locate a time in which the price of increasingly knowledge of  one&#8217;s faith was increasing ignorance of the faith of others, actually  worked out well for anyone.</p>
<p>Fourth and finally, one need not know a great deal, even about the  history or dogma of one&#8217;s own faith, in order to feel deeply connected  to it.  As demonstrated by the poll, many Catholics do not understand  transubstantiation, d many Protestants do not know about Martin Luther,  yet they identify with those traditions.</p>
<p>The history and ideology of any tradition is simply not the  determining factor in most people&#8217;s attachment to it.  People attach to  religious traditions at least as much because of what they experience  within the context of the community of followers, as they do because of  the teachings of its leaders.</p>
<p>So far, the Pew poll has mostly served as a Rorschach test for those  commenting on it.  The atheists/agnostics trumpet their &#8220;superior  knowledge&#8221; and the &#8220;fact&#8221; they are better informed than their believing  counter-parts.  Believers, for their part, mostly bemoan the &#8220;low  levels&#8221; of religious literacy especially within their own communities,  failing to notice the implicit dangers of ignoring the value of personal  experience and knowledge of other traditions.</p>
<p>Of course, my own analyses may be just as much a Rorschach of my own  approach to religious knowledge and experience, but to the extent it  values those who don&#8217;t share my own personal conclusions, I&#8217;ll take it  over the others any day and twice on Sunday, or whatever day one calls  Sabbath!</p>
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<p><strong>Reprinted from Rabbi Brad Hirschfield&#8217;s blog Windows and Doors: Where        politics and pop culture meet 3000 years of Jewish Wisdom on <a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/windowsanddoors/">Beliefnet</a></strong></p>
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		<title>Statement on Free Speech by American and Canadian Muslims</title>
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I am proud to co-publish and add my name to this statement upholding the principle of  free speech and denouncing those who would threaten violence in the name of Islam.  If you would like to add your signature, please send an email with your  name, title, and organizational affiliation (if any) to Sheila Musaji,  tameditor@aol.com. 


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<div><em>I am proud to co-publish and add my name to this statement upholding the principle of  <a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/cityofbrass/free-speech.html">free speech</a> and denouncing those who would threaten violence in the name of Islam.  If you would like to add your signature, please send an email with your  name, title, and organizational affiliation (if any) to Sheila Musaji,  tameditor@aol.com. </em></div>
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<div><strong>A DEFENSE OF FREE SPEECH BY AMERICAN AND CANADIAN MUSLIMS</strong></div>
<div>We,  the undersigned, unconditionally condemn any intimidation or threats of  violence directed against any individual or group exercising the rights  of freedom of religion and speech; even when that speech may be  perceived as hurtful or reprehensible.<span id="more-358"></span></div>
<div>We are  concerned and saddened by the recent wave of vitriolic anti-Muslim and  anti-Islamic sentiment that is being expressed across our nation.</div>
<div>We  are even more concerned and saddened by threats that have been made  against individual writers, cartoonists, and others by a minority of  Muslims.  We see these as a greater offense against Islam than any  cartoon, Qur&#8217;an burning, or other speech could ever be deemed.</div>
<div>We affirm the right of free speech for Molly Norris, Matt Stone, Trey Parker, and all others including ourselves.</div>
<div>As Muslims, we must set an example of justice, patience, tolerance,  respect, and forgiveness.</div>
<div>The Qur&#8217;an enjoins Muslims to:</div>
<div>* bear witness to Islam through our good example (2:143);</div>
<div>* restrain anger and pardon people (3:133-134 and 24:22);</div>
<div>* remain patient in adversity (3186);</div>
<div>* stand firmly for justice (4:135);</div>
<div>* not let the hatred of others swerve us from justice (5:8);</div>
<div>* respect the sanctity of life (5:32);</div>
<div>* turn away from those who mock Islam (6:68 and 28:55);</div>
<div>* hold to forgiveness, command what is right, and turn away from the ignorant (7:199);</div>
<div>* restrain ourselves from rash responses (16:125-128);</div>
<div>* pass by worthless talk with dignity (25:72); and</div>
<div>* repel evil with what is better (41:34).</div>
<div>Islam  calls for vigorous condemnation of both hateful speech and hateful  acts, but always within the boundaries of the law. It is of the utmost  importance that we react, not out of reflexive emotion, but with dignity  and intelligence, in accordance with both our religious precepts and  the laws of our country.</div>
<div>We uphold the First  Amendment of the US Constitution and the Canadian Charter of Rights and  Freedoms.  Both protect freedom of religion and speech, because both  protections are fundamental to defending minorities from the whims of  the majority.</div>
<div>We therefore call on all Muslims  in the United States, Canada and abroad to refrain from violence.  We  should see the challenges we face today as an opportunity to sideline  the voices of hate&#8211;not reward them with further attention&#8211;by engaging  our communities in constructive dialogue about the true principles of  Islam, and the true principles of democracy, both of which stress the  importance of freedom of religion and tolerance.</div>
<div><strong>SIGNATORIES</strong>:</div>
<div>Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad, PhD, Director, Minaret of Freedom Foundation</div>
<div>Prof. Akbar S. Ahmed, PhD, Ibn Khaldun Chair of Islamic Studies, American University</div>
<div>Prof. Parvez Ahmed, PhD, Fulbright Scholar &amp; Assoc. Prof. University of North Florida</div>
<div>Wajahat Ali, playwright, journalist, and producer of &#8220;Domestic Crusaders&#8221;</div>
<div>Sumbul Ali-Karamali, JD, LLM (Islamic Law), author of &#8220;The Muslim Next Door&#8221;</div>
<div>Salam al-Marayati, Pres., Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC)</div>
<div>Shahed Amanullah, Editor-in-Chief, Altmuslim</div>
<div>Shahid Athar, M.D., Editor, Islam-USA</div>
<div>Hazami Barmada, Pres, American Muslim Interactive Network (AMIN)</div>
<div>M. Ali Chaudry, PhD, President, Center for Understanding Islam (CUII)</div>
<div>Robert D. Crane, JD</div>
<div>Mona Eltahawy, journalist</div>
<div>Prof. Mohammad Fadel, PhD</div>
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<div>Fatemeh Fakhraie, Editor-in-Chief of Muslimah Media Watch</div>
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<div>Hesham Hassaballa,  M.D., author, journalist, blogger &#8211; &#8220;God, faith, and a pen&#8221;</div>
<div>Arsalan Iftikhar, author, human rights lawyer, blogger &#8211; &#8220;The Muslim Guy&#8221;</div>
<div>Jeffrey Imm, Director, Responsible for Equality And Liberty (R.E.A.L.)</div>
<div>Prof. Muqtedar Khan, PhD, author of several books, Blogger &#8211; &#8220;Globalog&#8221;</div>
<div>M. Junaid Levesque-Alam, writer, blogger &#8211; &#8220;Crossing the Crescent&#8221;</div>
<div>David Liepert, M.D., blogger and author of blogger and author of &#8220;Muslim, Christian AND Jew&#8221;</div>
<div>Radwan A. Masmoudi, PhD, President, Center for the Study of Islam &amp; Democracy (CSID)</div>
<div>Melody Moezzi, JD, MPH, writer and attorney</div>
<div>Daniel Abdal-Hayy Moore, author of many books of poetry</div>
<div>Sheila Musaji, Editor, The American Muslim (TAM)</div>
<div>Aziz H. Poonawalla, PhD, scientist and blogger &#8211; &#8220;City of Brass&#8221; on Beliefnet.com</div>
<div>Hasan Zillur Rahim, PhD, journalist</div>
<div>Prof. Hussein Rashid, PhD, blogger &#8211; &#8220;Religion Dispatches&#8221;</div>
<div>Robert Salaam, blogger &#8211; &#8220;The American Muslim&#8221;</div>
<div>Tayyibah Taylor, Editor, Azizah Magazine</div>
<div>G. Willow Wilson, author of &#8220;Butterfly Mosque&#8221; and &#8220;Air&#8221; graphic novel series</div>
<div><em>A m<a href="http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/a_defense_of_free_speech_by_american_and_canadian_muslims/0018241">aster copy</a> with  most up-to-date list of signatories is available at The American Muslim  website. If you would like to add your signature, please send an email  with your name, title, and organizational affiliation (if any) to the  Editor at The American Muslim, Sheila Musaji (<a href="mailto:tameditor@aol.com">tameditor@aol.com</a>).</em></div>
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<p><strong>Reprinted from City of Brass, by Aziz Poonawalla on <a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/cityofbrass/">blog.beliefnet.com</a></strong></p>
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		<title>Fortune Cookies and Fortune Tellers, Same as Judaism and Christianity?</title>
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Woody Allen,  interviewed by Dave Itzkoff, in today&#8217;s New York Times was a bit  uncomfortable when wished a happy Jewish New Year by his interviewer,  responding &#8220;That&#8217;s for your people&#8221;.  However, he went to say some very  interesting things about faith and religion.

&#8220;To me,&#8221; Mr. Allen said, &#8220;there&#8217;s no real difference between  a fortune... <span class="more"><a href="http://blog.bridgestv.com/2010/09/fortune-cookies-and-fortune-tellers-same-as-judaism-and-christianity/" title="read more &#187;">read more &#187;</a></span>]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/15/movies/15woody.html?_r=1&amp;ref=arts#">Woody Allen</a>,  interviewed by Dave Itzkoff, in today&#8217;s New York Times was a bit  uncomfortable when wished a happy Jewish New Year by his interviewer,  responding &#8220;That&#8217;s for your people&#8221;.  However, he went to say some very  interesting things about faith and religion.</p>
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<blockquote><p>&#8220;To me,&#8221; Mr. Allen said, &#8220;there&#8217;s no real difference between  a fortune teller or a fortune cookie and any of the organized  religions. They&#8217;re all equally valid or invalid, really. And equally  helpful.&#8221;<span id="more-347"></span></p></blockquote>
<p>Is he wrong or is he right?  Of course, the answer is yes.  In many  ways there are no differences between any of the faiths and practices  which help us in our lives, especially in the most significant sense &#8211;  that they help us.  But in other ways, there are profound differences.</p>
<p>Fortune cookies and fortune tellers help only the individual who  avails themselves of their respective insights, or is that &#8220;insights&#8221;? &#8211;  you decide.  The organized religions to which Mr. Allen compares them,  should also connect us to things beyond ourselves and our own immediate  needs.</p>
<p>It may be God, it may be other people, but when they do their job  properly, that too is the work of genuine religion and religious  experience.  If they are not accomplishing that, if they are not helping  us to reach beyond ourselves, then I am with Woody &#8211; there is no  difference between fortune cookies and faith.</p>
<p>Speaking about his about-to-be-released film, &#8220;You Will Meet A Tall Dark Stranger&#8221;, Allen commented:</p>
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<blockquote><p>&#8220;I was interested in the concept of faith in  something. This sounds so bleak when I say it, but we need some  delusions to keep us going. And the people who successfully delude  themselves seem happier than the people who can&#8217;t.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>But are those who believe really deluded?  If the faith they have  keeps them going and makes them happier, why is not real?  Must  something be scientifically true to be real?  Is love real?  Is  compassion real?</p>
<p>On this point, I think that it is Mr. Allen who is deluding himself,  or at least using pejorative language to soften the blow to his  materialist self about the reality of religion.  Of course, that&#8217;s a  motif with which Woody Allen has wrestled for decades.</p>
<p>At the end of Annie Hall, Allen&#8217;s character shares the story of a man  who tell a psychiatrist about his disturbed brother, an man who thinks  he&#8217;s a chicken.  Asked by the psychiatrist why they don&#8217;t get the  brother some help, Allen responds that they would, except they need the  eggs.</p>
<p>In the end, whether religion is a grand illusion or an image of a far  greater reality, if it helps us and helps us to help others, it&#8217;s  pretty wonderful &#8211; in whatever packages it comes.</p>
<p><strong>Reprinted from Rabbi Brad Hirschfield&#8217;s blog Windows and Doors: Where       politics and pop culture meet 3000 years of Jewish Wisdom on <a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/windowsanddoors/">Beliefnet</a></strong></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am ambivalent about giving any additional attention to a hate-filled, fear-driven, religious leader like Pastor Terry Jones. Once the Gainesville, Florida minister is being covered by the New York Times however, it seems that coverage is assured. The only question which remains is what shall be the response?

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<p>Is it appropriate to simply right him off as a kook? Can we afford to stand silently by? The answers to those questions have nothing to do with how one feels about Islam in general, or about the proposed cultural center and mosque to be situated a few blocks from the site of the former World Trade Center.</p>
<p>Whether one opposes the mosque or not, this proposed Koran burning is obscene. Tragically and ironically, this is an expression of Christianity which parallels the parts of Islam which represent a genuine threat to the human race. I guess it&#8217;s an irony Pastor Jones misses, but reminds us all that it&#8217;s not the faith which kills; it&#8217;s the fanatical attachment to it.</p>
<p>Before deciding what you think is the appropriate response, think for a minute about the response you would hope for, if it were bibles that someone proposed to burn? What would be the appropriate response to a religious leader calling for the public burning of a Torah scroll?</p>
<p>We cannot call for a vocal response from Muslims when Muslims engage in hateful acts towards the followers of other faiths unless we, who cherish those other faiths, speak out when our religious leaders behave hatefully. Ultimately, this moment is not a test of Pastor Jones, but for the rest of us. I hope we pass. I guess we&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p><strong>Reprinted from Rabbi Brad Hirschfield&#8217;s blog Windows and Doors: Where      politics and pop culture meet 3000 years of Jewish Wisdom on <a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/windowsanddoors/">Beliefnet</a></strong></p>
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